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vanillakittenmittens
March 17, 2009, 1:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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Hi there, what a mad day you have had with your exams.  What course are you doing?

I really do not get that question and i would be left puzzled.  I would have thought a neg skin test was a reaction, but then looking at it again it could be No skin reaction, which I now think it is.  If that does mean it no reaction then 5 would have been my answer as I always taught to do skin tests for all colour types except Colour Mousse, but then it could be 1 also.  Its the silly wording of the Q.


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samanthajane
March 17, 2009, 10:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes a very mad day, i was meant to get the results today but they wern't back will have to wait till tomorrow.

I'm doing my NVQ level 2.

m glad i'm not the only one left confused. At first i though it meant there was a reaction, if tempory colour was left on it's own then i would of chosen that, but i couldn't cause the answer includes permanet and quasi!!. But then after thinking again i cant see a negative result being anything but meaning no reaction, no wonder i was confused.

In all of my exams there seemed to be a lot of "trick" questions, we were told by other that had taken the exams from a different group to read the questions at least 3 times cause the wording is so bad and it can get very confusing.

I was 1 of only 4 people in the whole group that passed both of the first exams, i dont think that had anything to do with people not knowing the answers just that they couldn't understand the questions. I'm no genious but i'm not stupid either, and i'm older that most of the others in my class, a bit more life experience and if i had problems understanding the questions, in the nicest way possible they didn't stand a chance.
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vanillakittenmittens
March 19, 2009, 1:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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The questions must have changed a bit since I did the course as I dont remember having problems with the wordings, although the barbering course I have almost done has a couple of Qs that were a bit confusing.  We did all our tests on paper and after every unit rather than all together.


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samanthajane
March 20, 2009, 10:20am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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i got my results back and i passed all of them apart form the colour exam which i already knew i wouldn't have much chance of getting the 70%, actually no one passed the colour exa, we all failed.

I was the only one that did all of the remaining exams together as i had finished all my assessments and i wanted to finish the course.

I did about 3 of my E3a on paper but all our E4's and the remaining E3a's i did on computer.

Was it the NVQ level 2 barbeing course that you did. I was thinking of doing this course in september along side my level 3 in hairdressing, How did you find the course over all? Would you say it's worth while doing?

Also since i think your the only other person reading this post lol have you any experience with the NXT range. I've heard some good things about it and was thinking of maybe using this range. A 100ml is only 3.99 which is great value, and i was told that the guy that set up this range used to work for l'oreal and it bascially the same. It's just the l'oreal name that you are paying for. There so many more people going mobile cause salons have closed down or just closing down on mon,tu,wed cause it'snot worth their while being open.
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emma
March 21, 2009, 9:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hi just a piece of advice level 3 is very hard you might be best getting some experience before tackling it! I did about 3 years ago and i have been qualified for 8, especially if your struggling with your colouring paperwork.

You would be best off doing your barbering then go for level 3
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samanthajane
March 22, 2009, 11:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hi emma thanks for advice, i dont think i'd want to do the barbering before the level 3 it was just an extra i was thinking of doing. It doesn't start untill september so i'll have a few months for experience before it starts and i am still looking for a part time job as well. I'm not actually struggling with the colour i would of passed if i had answered all the questions it was just a mistake at the end of the paper i was meant to go back to some of the questions i left but i clicked on the wrong button, out of the 24 question i only answered 17 and i needed to of get all of them right to pass and i got 2 wrong. ( maybe a course in computers would be better lol )

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samanthajane
March 22, 2009, 11:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hi emma, one of the questions i had on the paper i wrote her, what would you of answered for that question. I'm still stumped, i've asked a few people i know and they were like.....i havent a clue, and they have all been in the trade for a number of years as well.
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emma
March 23, 2009, 8:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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For example 1 question i had was : From the list below WHICH would you most LIKELY be able to carry out if you had a negative skin test.

1) permanent colours and quasi
2) bleach and semi-colour
3) tempory and permanent colours
4) quasi and Tempory colour
Is this the question?????

answer i would say would be 2.....

people are only reactioning to an ingredient in the permanent colour so bleach could be ok and a lot of people can have a semi if they are allergic to tint as it is different ingredients

But if it means No reaction then all 4 options are ok to do so i would have put 1... you normally can ask your tutor if you dont understand a question

Does that help????
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emma
March 23, 2009, 8:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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That is the sort of thing that is in level 3, especially if you want to do colour correction you need lots of colouring experience if you havent made or seen any mistakes how are you going to be able to put it right?????
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vanillakittenmittens
March 26, 2009, 11:12am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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Hi again, NVQ2 Barbering was really good, I enjoyed it and I will find it worth while as many of my enquiries are from Gents, but I have not always been able to help them lol.  I just did the Cutting and Drying units course though as it was pointless doing the full course as I already have all the other units in ladies and its very much the same, just the cutting and drying is different.

I have not bothered to think about NVQ3 as being mobile I don't think it is much use to me.  I am booked on for Colour Correction and have done creative colour and cutting already through Sallys using Wella.  They are the only things I wanted from NVQ3 as I dont have an interest in Dressing hair so dont wish to progress there.

I have heard it very hard and we were recommended at college to get 2 years experience before looking into it.


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samanthajane
March 26, 2009, 6:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hi emma,

You gave 2 answers........ 1 and 2. Those were the 2 i was stuck between.

My tutor even said it was a stupid question as well....but she though the answer would of been 1. ( we cant actually find out the answer we just get told what ones we got wrong doesn't provide us with the correct answer, which i think they should cause that way we could understand it more, and i cant remember what every question was )

Do you mean that question is what i will get in the level 3? What was it doing in my exam them i'm only level 2???

Yeah i know it will hard, the levels 3's in my college at the moment are having a nightmare with their exams at the moment, there all having to re-sit, but what i dont know or understand now i will learn in the course, i can but give it ago.

hi vanillakittenmittens,

I'll have to ask if i can just do a few units for the barbering, i thought you have to do the required number of units to get the full qualification...this is the case with my current college, but because i'm moving i'm doing the level 3 and the barbering at a different college so i'll have to ask. I didn't think there was much up-stying in the level 3 apart from the optional units. My new college doesn't offered very many optionals so i might have to do it, i really like up-styling i'm just really crap at it lol
IF i was staying on at my current college we would have the option of extension and indian head massage as well which i thought was very good.

I've looked into doing a few colour course with L'oreal, just need to save up the money, if i can do a couple of them before i start the level 3 that should help me out a bit.
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J
March 26, 2009, 8:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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when doin your level three you dont have to have experiance i done ma level three and it was realy good as it goes threw all the colour correction and doing all diffrent styles we also a photo shoot and hair show where you could do all the hair ups but diffrent things not just plain styles
i would say doing you level three was good you get a better insight
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vanillakittenmittens
March 27, 2009, 9:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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hi emma,

You gave 2 answers........ 1 and 2. Those were the 2 i was stuck between.

My tutor even said it was a stupid question as well....but she though the answer would of been 1. ( we cant actually find out the answer we just get told what ones we got wrong doesn't provide us with the correct answer, which i think they should cause that way we could understand it more, and i cant remember what every question was )

Do you mean that question is what i will get in the level 3? What was it doing in my exam them i'm only level 2???

Yeah i know it will hard, the levels 3's in my college at the moment are having a nightmare with their exams at the moment, there all having to re-sit, but what i dont know or understand now i will learn in the course, i can but give it ago.

hi vanillakittenmittens,

I'll have to ask if i can just do a few units for the barbering, i thought you have to do the required number of units to get the full qualification...this is the case with my current college, but because i'm moving i'm doing the level 3 and the barbering at a different college so i'll have to ask. I didn't think there was much up-stying in the level 3 apart from the optional units. My new college doesn't offered very many optionals so i might have to do it, i really like up-styling i'm just really crap at it lol
IF i was staying on at my current college we would have the option of extension and indian head massage as well which i thought was very good.

I've looked into doing a few colour course with L'oreal, just need to save up the money, if i can do a couple of them before i start the level 3 that should help me out a bit.


I didnt ask to do a few units the college I went to offered full Barbering for people who were not already in Hairdressing or the Barbering with just Cutting and Drying which was designed for the already qualified Hairdressers just to add to what they already have.  They run the course 3 times a year and it only cost 150. I had to travel to Leeds from York though as they dont run these courses in York, so to be qualified in it in my area is quite unique as most others just get taught it in salons and dont gain qualifications for it.

I have actually thought about Indian Head Massage myself as I thought it would be nice to be able to offer that as a treat with a shampoo or after a long Colour or Perm service.


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Indian head massage sounds nice


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samanthajane
March 27, 2009, 4:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Vanilla, thats quite good i had a look around but there's nothing near me that would do anything like that. I'm trying to find out what the actual units are in the level 2 barbering, the college isn't much help can only get through to the receptionist! I tried looking on the city and guild website and couldn't find it......cant be looking hard enough it has to be there.

Yeah i really want to do the indian head massage as an optional unit with my level 3 but they dont offer it. I've looked into doing it seperatly but i cant find a course that just does the indian head massage where they will let me without having the NVQ level 2 in beauty. Which doesn't make much sense but there you go.

Admin ohhh yes i love getting a head massage....not sure how easy thats going to be being mobile lol ........... head stuck over the bath not a great place to relax.

Back to Vanilla lol....... i've seen portable basins and there not that expensive...do you have one of these? do you know if there any good or not??
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