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samanthajane
February 16, 2009, 12:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hi, i'm about 4 weeks away from being fully qualified yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. And although i intend on working part time in a salon i also what to go mobile as well, for a few extra pennys. And i am totally stuck on what to charge people. I've sat for hours trying to figure out what i should charge for different services. Without a set price list i know i'll under charge. The prices that i've come up with are all cheaper than what you would pay in a salon, but how under are you meant to go? I have a terrible habit of doing people's hair for free, i dont mean to i just dont know what to charge them. I spent a whole day once doing my friends hair,her sister and 2 friends they all had highlights, cut and a blowdry, they paid for the colour so i didn't lose any money but i didn't make any either. I know i'm not fully qualified yet, which is why i didn't want to charge them, but thats only because i'm waiting on doing my exams, all my practical is completed and signed off. Any help and i'd be very grateful.
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piercednige
February 16, 2009, 6:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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charge wat u think you are worth. an charge on experience too
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vanillakittenmittens
February 17, 2009, 11:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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I started Mobile as soon as I qualified 2 years ago and I charged 8 for a wet cut and 15 for highlight etc..  It was just enough to buy the product and a little profit from it to, it gained me clients though and at that moment in time was my priority.  Good luck.


City & Guild NVQ2 Ladies Hairdressing, City & Guilds NVQ2 Barbering, Wella Colour Correction, Wella Colour Creations
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J
February 18, 2009, 7:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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when i started doin mobile i charge just under salon prices as i am not goin out to work for nothing as long as you have the confidance thats what you need as people dont no how long you have been doin it
for my colours i dont do anything under 45 as its you time as well as your stock  and travelling expensies
i wouldnt do it to cheap as once you have the clients its hard to put your prices up as they expect it at the price they had at the start
i charge higher prices but not as much as a salon as you cant do as many clients as in a salon
as long as you are confident dont be afraid to chRGER a good price
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Freelance62
February 22, 2009, 2:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Id say join the freelance hair and beauty federation, and do their starting our freelance course... they show you exactly how to start your business the right way and set your prices.
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samanthajane
February 23, 2009, 9:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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vanillakittenmittens- i take it the 15 you charge for highlights is just for a t-bar and it wouldn't include any finish. If you charged that when you just started out what do you charge now? Like J said if you charge very little at the beginning it might upset a few people when you start putting the price up. I've checked local prices and for colour i was thinking around 20-30 cheaper so say for a 1/2 head h/l's cut and finish i would charge 55.00. I dont want to sound like a know-it-all cause there's always new things to learn but i'm totally confident in every aspect of what i do, and i dont think any client would know that i had just qualified.

Also just out of interest if this has happened to anyone, if you had a client that you gave them exacetly what they asked for and they didn't like it and wanting something else doing would you charge them again. So far (touch wood) i've had no complaints and the clients i do in college always ask for me when then re-book so i take that as a good sign, but if someone wanted to go from brunette to blonde, so you started off with maybe 1/2 head of h/l's, and then the client decided they didn't like the blonde and wanting to go back brunette again would you do it for free ( i'm thinking no cause you didn't do anything wrong the colour came out fine it's just they changed their mind) or charge them full price, or give them a discount?
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J
February 24, 2009, 3:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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thats a hard one but the thing is the colour has came out its what they wanted when your started i would still charge and not put your self out of pocket it also depends on the client if they are a good regular you want to keep them
its hard but you have to decide but i would take something for it
its something that i have never had
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samanthajane
February 24, 2009, 11:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I hope that i never have to deal with that as well, knowing me i'd probably not charge them to keep them happy even though i didn't agree with it. Like you said it really does depend on the client, if she had been coming to me for a long time then i wouldn't want to lose that regular business for the sake of a colour and an hour or so of my time.  How long have you been mobile J?
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J
February 25, 2009, 9:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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i worked in a salon self employed for a year then went out and started doin it out and about and have been doin that for 2 years now i prefer what im doin now as i had a baby so i can work when i have a childminder and can work round things
what about you self how long have you been doin it for samanthajane
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samanthajane
February 26, 2009, 1:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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at the moment i'm not lol i'm not even qualified yet lol i do my first exams next monday ( keep your fingers crossed for me ) All my practical is signed off though give or take a few minor things ( bloody finger waving like i'm ever going to need that, well i might but they'd never come back cause i'm crap at it) For the past year i have been doing family and friends but thats not really the same as going to someone you dont know and doing their hair. I'm just trying to figure out things before i do go mobile.

Completly off subject but i need to vent to people that will understand where i'm cming from............last night in college my b/f came in to get his hair done, over the past few months he's been like a guinipig to myself and other when we've needing certain things for out assesments. I used him as a scalp treatment, cap hightlight, clippers, scissor over comb loads of things bless him. Well a girl i'm very friendly with needed a scalp treatment for her assessment so i said i would bring him in, and also she needed to be assessed for scissor over comb as well. So she did the treatment and then  i took him down to a grade 4 back and sides and started blending in the rest of the hair to give her a head start. Even though i've never actually had a training on barbering i've had enough practice doing him and my son that i've just figured it out myself, i'm sure there are easier ways of doing it but i get the same results in the end. Any way back to the subject i went off tidy up after finishing my client to come back to find she had totally messed up his hair, he had chunks missing from one side of his head!!!!!!!! She didn't even need to touch some of the areas i had used the clippers on it, it didn't need to be touched. What she did was use her comb leave it against his head and started cutting it striaght! now i'm no expert but what the hell was she thinking. I was so mad but i didn't let it show cause she is a friend i just couldn't believe she did that. She gave me the impression she knew what she was doing. In the end i asked my tutor to fix it cause i couldn't let her carry on and i wasn't sure i could fix it properly. Usually i clipper him about an inch or so up from his ears at a grade 4. To fix it my tutor had to go to a grade 1 1/2 ( yeah she really messed it up ) and even then you can still see patchy bits. And we had to go so much higher we had no other choice, we had to clipper him up nearly 3 inches above his ear, and chop off most of his hair on top couldn't leave it longish like i normally do cause he'd look like someone had put a bowl on his head and just cut around it.
It's not like i'm angry she messed it up we all have to learn and make mistakes but i'm angry cause she gave me the impression that she had done this loads of times and knew what she was doing. Even if she had said she wasn't confident  my tutor would of stayed with her and show her what to do. By the time i saw what she had done it was too late. This sounds bad but i'd never let her colour my hair i did it once and that was bad enough, all the packets bled and i had lines all over my head lol i was not impressed, had to get it fixed the next day, and i also had to take over one of her clients once and found a whole t-section of hightlights had bled, lucky for me they wern't blonde and i was able to cover it up since i caught it early and the client had an all over tint as well.
Jez i really did go on didn't i lol told you i needed to vent. Anyway i have to see her tomorrow in college and i dont know what i'm going to say to her or what she's going to say to me.... she left that night while we were still trying to fix his hair and she didn't say goodbye either.
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J
February 26, 2009, 9:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator


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so ahve you decided on what you are goin to do once you finish your training are you goin to try and get into a salon or are you goin to go freelance?
oh my god i cant believe that girl done that espesialy when you trusted her to cut your boyfriend hair that must be a hard one if shes a friend but she should have got the tutor to show her what to do before atacking his hair some people just think they can do it and it aint as easy as it looks
i think she should have came up and said sorry for doing that instead of walking out and leaving it to someone else to fix her mess i dont think i would trust her again to do your hair or even your boyfriens i no they always say yeah but hair grows back but he might not like his hair short and that is not what he wanted
you will have to let me no how things go with her when you go back to collage
and good luck for your final exams
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samanthajane
February 27, 2009, 12:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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well i was in college with her tonight and she did apoligise to me and say she didn't know what happened she had done it before and it had never happen before ( not sure i totally believe that ) but anyway it's happened and we ended up fixing his hair so it's over and done with now.

Once i'm completly qualified i'm planning on doing both, working part time in a salon maybe 2 days, fri and sat and then going freelance the rest of the time. Even though i'm confident enough i think it will be good to get some experience in a salon and i'll always pick up new advice and tips. Plus i'm meant to be working in a salon at the moment while i'm doing my level 2 but i was let off cause i wasn't begind at all and i felt i could do more at home than i would be allowed to do in a salon. In a salon i'd just be washing hair and sweeping up and making tea and coffee. At home i'm able to do high lights and cuts when ever i want, i still practice now to try and get my times down, i can do a full head of highlights in 43 mins.
But with my level 3 that i will be starting in september there's no getting out of it i was told i would have to be working in a salon. Maybe after the years up doing my level 3 i'll go freelance full time, will have to see how i get on.  Thanks for the luck for the exams, i'm sitting her now studying... loads of fun lol
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J
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thats good that she did come and apoligise to you but there is nothing you can do about it as you said his hair got fixed thats all that matters
its a good thing to try and get in to a salon it will give you good experiance and build up confidance as well as doing freelance on your day off this gives you time to build up your freelance side up and once you have done your level 3 you can go out and do it yourself and not have to worry if you will have enough client or am i goin to make enough money thats why its good to build it up
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vanilla
March 16, 2009, 2:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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vanillakittenmittens- i take it the 15 you charge for highlights is just for a t-bar and it wouldn't include any finish. If you charged that when you just started out what do you charge now? Like J said if you charge very little at the beginning it might upset a few people when you start putting the price up. I've checked local prices and for colour i was thinking around 20-30 cheaper so say for a 1/2 head h/l's cut and finish i would charge 55.00. I dont want to sound like a know-it-all cause there's always new things to learn but i'm totally confident in every aspect of what i do, and i dont think any client would know that i had just qualified.

Also just out of interest if this has happened to anyone, if you had a client that you gave them exacetly what they asked for and they didn't like it and wanting something else doing would you charge them again. So far (touch wood) i've had no complaints and the clients i do in college always ask for me when then re-book so i take that as a good sign, but if someone wanted to go from brunette to blonde, so you started off with maybe 1/2 head of h/l's, and then the client decided they didn't like the blonde and wanting to go back brunette again would you do it for free ( i'm thinking no cause you didn't do anything wrong the colour came out fine it's just they changed their mind) or charge them full price, or give them a discount?


The 15 I charged was just for Parting/T-section with 1 colour being used but did included finish but no Cut.  I charge 20 now for this plus 5 for cut.  This is just for hair above shoulders though.  To be honest my first clients were Sets and cuts which were at 8 for set or wet/dry cut and 10 for cut and blow dry.  My prices are now 10 for set or blow dry and wet/dry cut and 15 for shampoo cut and blow dry so not much diff over the 2 years that I started.

For 1/2 Head highlights with cut and blow dry on above shoulder hair I charge from 30 and 5 extra for every extra colour up to 3, so like 30, 35 and 40, for hair below shoulders I charge 35, 40 and 45.  I am thinking of increasing these by say 2.50 - 5 now though.

For a client who changed their mind because they were not keen on the colour I would charge again if it was not an error.
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samanthajane
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Thanks for that vanilla. Helps me try to figure things out ( yeah i'm still stuck lol keep changing the prices all the time, not advertised yet have 1 week and then i will so i'd better get my skates on )

I passed my first 2 exams!!!!!!! came top of my class ( yes i am gloating lol ) Both of them i got over 90% so i've been doing a little dance.

I did my other exams today all bloody 8 of them!!!!

Feel i did really well on all of them apart from one.......your'll laugh when i tell you what i did i'm such a plonker...

So at the end of the exam you can go back and review your answers, i always answer the ones that i'm sure of the answers and then go back and do the ones i wasn't so sure of. So when i got to the end there was 7 questions that i hadn't answered out of 24, instead of clicking on the review button dozey me clicks on the finish button..... i was so mad with myself, once you click the finish button you cant go back into it.

I need 70% to pass so IF i have answered all 17 question correctly then i will just scrap past, if not i'm going t have to do it again.

I'm so mad at the moment cause the questions i could of answered right if i had the chance.......i hate these exams anyway they are worded so bad it's unreal, a lot of the question will ask you the BEST, WOULD, LIKELY or WHICH and they will give you 2 answers that are possible, how am i suppose to know whch one they are looking for.

For example 1 question i had was : From the list below WHICH would you most LIKELY be able to carry out if you had a negative skin test.

1) permanent colours and quasi
2) bleach and semi-colour
3) tempory and permanent colours
4) quasi and Tempory colour


I mean what the hell............. My first though was well the test was negative so there's no reaction so you can carry on with any of the services. But there was a 5 lsaying that.

Would anyone like to explaine this question to me? Cause i haven't a clue. By my own weird thinking i ruled out the tempory colour cause you wouldn't really need to do a skin test so that left me with 1 and 2.

Didn't end up answering this question anyway i was mean to come back to it.

What would you of picked?

Is this a stupid question or am i just not getting it?????
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