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March 6, 2006, 11:20am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi everyone!

It is true you can actually straighten curly hair with a perming kit? i have no idea about perms but i have heard that if you put the perming lotion on the hair and DONT put any curlers in then the effect it will have on the hair, providing it is kept straight is that it will STAY straight!!??

If this is true then WOW! ill go an get a perm kit tonight and straighten my hair please reply if anyone has tried this or you have any advise!


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March 6, 2006, 6:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Vicky,
         welcome to the hairdressers forum, some-one will be along to give you some advice soon, good to see you here though.

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When your hair is permanently waved, its structure is altered, which makes it slightly more vulnerable if not properly cared for - for this reason - i would never advocate perming at home - the potential for it going wrong is too great. Hair is our crowning glory - why risk it for saving a few pennies???

Hair can be RELAXED by perming - using extra-large rollers will encourage a softer wave and a straighter look.

To STRAIGHTEN  hair with perm lotion - it has to be continually combed through - this is an act fraught with dangers!!  The hair is in a weakened state when lotion is applied and the di-sulphide bonds in the hair are broken. Any colour on the hair can also cause weak areas and excess perm lotion on the scalp can cause severe damage.

I cannot stress strongly enough - do not try this at home. Straightening has come on leaps and bounds in the last few years and there are lots of options available at salons - ceramic straightening - temporary straightening.

Straightening hair is a job for professionals ONLY!!!!

I am a hairdresser and would not even attempt the process on my own hair - ever!!

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It is possible - HOWEVER, perm solutions are too thin to use as a relaxer and scalp irritation is a risk. There are SAFER methods - 'Acid' relaxers and non-thio Bisufate formulas but these are hard to find and won't completely straighten all hair types . They can also 'Revert' (the hair regains curl) after a few months. BEWARE of going to a salon - even "So-Called" 'Professionals' have had their share of disasters. Use a salon that does this on a 'Regular' basis - more than just a couple of times a year and find someone who has experience with many different hair types and textures - color treated, bleached and previously permed / relaxed if possible. Here are some links http://store.goldenmartbeautysupply.com/neweragelrek.html )  (https://www.amazon.com/Ogilvie-Straightener-Hair-Types-Pound/dp/B004S696UM?th=1 ) the fist link is for New Era® an Ammonium Bisulfite relaxer that has a low pH of about 6 to 6.8 (slightly Acid) the second link is for Ogilvie® Hair Staightener which uses Ammonium Thioglycolate and is stronger than the Bisulfite relaxer and weaker than most Lye or 'No-Lye' relaxer systems.
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